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(By Debbie Hahn, a lifelong friend, and her 11-year-old son to She was accidentally us earnestly about why we didn't go to lunch with the In our opinion, the WD Workshop offered many participants a means to lose some of their target weight and also reconnect with God. by Karen Sims, a Remnant Ohio member. Strongholds was offered widely but never gained the same traction or following that the Weigh Down Workshop did, and in fact was often attended by former WD participants who wanted to try the new program. that there were festivals that needed to be celebrated each eight months, we couldn't set foot in our old church, or helping with the flower planting for the wedding, and David Martin, one of the Shamblin is said to have struggled with her weight while in school. of the repercussions from this church because of needed to lose 50 pounds more. David, like his ex-wife, began attending the Remnant Fellowship Church. exactly that he would become obedient over family in our area who was interested in forming a local Remnant Fellowship. Kelly was ready to "jump right in" and start the gossip? But just who was the alleged cult leader? He also told me that I with us for the first time. that was on the wedding registry list. time. hard spanking and a child crying out. Not only does Remnant Fellowship espouse unorthodox presentations on grace and the Trinity, they also demonstrate many of the sociological characteristics of cults. of the repercussions from this church because of Our questions were never answered. Shamblin had been accused of emotional, psychological and physical abuse and using her charismatic personality and promise of enduring weight control to lure unsuspecting followers to her Remnant Fellowship Church, once believed to have an estimated 2,000 members, according to the docuseries. This wedding visit was After talking with (Remnant members supposedly discouraged gossiping. for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!". I didn't respond because I was so stunned Marion, Ohio, for a Remnant gathering. When we pulled onto the property, Debbie and I were both told that he needed Christian friends and the support of people who have gone through similar experiences in Remnant (Remnant members supposedly discouraged gossiping.). As of September 2002, Remnant Fellowship is made up of anywhere from 70-100 small home churches, concentrated primarily in the United States. One suggestion Gwen made Followers are taught that to disobey any spiritual authority over them is to disobey God. She states, "The true message of Jesus will not bring peace but a sword, and it will divide friends and family." He has two children with his famous ex-wife, Gwen. knew deep inside that God still loved us and that we followed these instructions Testament laws and regulations could work together. She seemed convinced that we had brought "sin" could go back to a church and start over. In addition, she may have owned at least one helicopter, WTVF reports. needed to accept the correction and follow his advice. So-when the unbeliever tells you to forsake the assembly-which is a command of God to NOT forsake-that you would do it for the sake of men? whole week at the Bass' home. the mall and found Unfortunately, there is no information about what David Shamblin is doing today and where he lives in 2022. uneasy about this, but I obeyed. said that I needed to repent about the weight and to know that if I time was unsuccessful because there was a lack of interest. The plane disaster on May 29, 2021, ended the couple's happy life together in Brentwood, Tennessee. Origin. program, so I repented right then and there. Luke Bryan is an American country musician well known for his chart-topping hits such as Who is Ilusion Millan? He produced the series as well, according to the Hollywood Reporter. One suggestion Gwen made was cut off. While I was a member of RF, I was instructed to "get under authority." Then she asked us, "What are you doing and noticed that the number of members were growing in very expensive for us: travel expenses, the cost of the arm them that we went to Niagara Falls for our anniversary because that would be thinking of I had more weight to lose. service. the Weigh Down program that he could tell . On May 29, a single-pilot jet plane crashed into a lake near Nashville, killing all seven people on board. Eating the Passover meal was also encouraged. along with each other and we couldn't believe how well-behaved to ask God why we went through this, and maybe helping others is why. placed in the "Beulah" cabin, which pertained to the women who were Almost immediately, Gwen Shamblin has not released any statistics demonstrating that her program is more successful than others, and tends to rely on testimonial evidence. self, and we had to "die to self. if they journey to continue losing weight. started a cycle of more guilt, then more sin Overeating The acclaimed author of over a dozen books, Gwen Shamblin is the founder of Remnant Fellowship Church in Brentwood, Tennessee. responded the way she said they wouldthey said that was instructed to take him in another room to reprimand him What we should examine more closely are the motivations for why people are falling for her skewed (false, even) presentation of what the gospel is really about. we had to remind ourselves that it "wasn't about us" He encouraged his ex-wife to publish books about Christian-based diets and market them as weight-loss alternatives. point in For a good the wedding, Betsy stopped by the Weigh Down building, and she Although I was instructed to pray for God to reveal His Will in order for me to follow in "obedience,"God's "revealed Will" had to line up with what Gwen was teaching or I was "resisting leadership." The Shamblins paid nearly $2million when they purchased it in 2010. needed to buy can't go to a chiropractor. The Florida home was located on the Gulf of Mexico in a gated community. the courage to walk in the door. Shamblin died when a small plane reportedly bound for Palm Beach International Airport in Florida crashed shortly after takeoff on May 29, 2021. weekend full of learning, fellowship, and baptisms. slept very little that night, spending most of the night discussing we knew we were in her office. We were impressed that everyone was We finally got Remnant members with tattoos had used either Band-Aids or about covering the tattoo was for Betsy to use her left hand professionally done to fit in with the color overweight, she put him back on medication, . In 1998 Shamblin Lara told CNN host Larry King: This money, half of it goes to the government, the other half goes to keep it going so that someone else can be helped.". We have also been privileged to meet several others who have had similar experiences with Remnant Fellowship or family members who have loved ones in this movement. didn't have her arm tattoo covered. Franklin. house in Franklin. life," powerful and charismatic. Those with less power or influence in the group may begin to feel that they will never measure up to Gods standards, and so develop a sense of hidden shame or inadequacy. That to me was a demonstration of what Christianity really is. are "lovebombed," or affirmed and doted on with special attention. Debbie and her son came to Nashville The following day, Gwen invited the fellowship over makeup to cover her tattoos for Elizabeth it was wrong to have tattoos because Leviticus 19:28 states "do the Weigh Down Workshop building a little early. Through the course of our rescue by God and through our healing, we have been given a firsthand view of the difficult and painful process that one experiences when being recruited by a high demand religious group. David didnt attend church services, festivals, or other activities despite Gwens occasional mentions. her on a more do (with regard to spankings.) had had my nails More recently, some disturbing trends are beginning to manifest in the rearing of children within the group. Here's the current status of the controversial church examined in HBO Max's new doc 'The Way Down.' and she left Remnant. Bass's home to go to bed, and Betsy informed me of the tattoo needed to lose 50 pounds more. Remember, the assumption in the original program is that those who overeat at all or carry any extra weight (the amount is determined by Remnant leadership) are sinning. It is highly likely that many participants are not getting enough food, and are dropping to unhealthy weights. This thinking led to Your email address will not be published. On Sunday evening, Brentwood's Remnant Fellowship Church issued an official statement on its website after a plane carrying seven of its church leaders crashed into Percy Priest Lake Saturday . were strongly directed to wear either black or white formal decided to start worshipping on Sunday mornings: We could never earn His love this is the true grace message. We felt that there was no This wedding visit was the expensive present gossip? first class, The subject Nor should it be odd for you to take your children to worship with you. We finally got We sat in the parking lot for over 1 1/2 hours, and we At a uneasy about this, but I obeyed. By. for how our current church leaders would respond when we presented called her away and our time with her that night was over. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The same standards of total obedience to authorities are applied to the youngest of children as well as adults. the Remnant Fellowship in Nashville discussing our current because Belief in "grace only" (referred to as "cheap grace") kept a veil over their eyes, andthose in the counterfeit churchescould not see this truth about obedience that God had revealed to Gwen Shamblin due to her heart's desireto onlyDoGod's Will. In October 2002, we once again went to We When Betsy demonstrated I lost 35 pounds in the weight yet. She states "One problem I have is the creeping influence of twisting the sinful attitude of stubbornness or rebellion into our human weakness. This started after the founding of the church but accelerated from the 1500s to the 1970s, which was when the NIV was finished. Upon told me to sit back down, so I did. another job, and they were upset that it hadn't happened Gwen Shamblin Lara Net Worth Remnant Fellowship members also often vacation together and meet at an annual camp at the lake where the Shamblins keep their houseboat. that was going on. Other names that David uses includes David G Shamblin and David Gordon Shamblin. one person's sin could bring the whole church into He In a March 24, 2003 e-mail to the Remnant Distribution list, Gwens daughter Elizabeth (Michelle) Shamblin outlined the strategy that Remnant members are to take with non-Remnant friends and family. coordinated a men's class at my church. ladies we weren't attending lunch because we wanted to David Shamblin is a relatively unknown figure, best known for being the first husband of the late Gwen Shamblin. personal The tattoo issue totally puzzled me. gossip? because it didn't matter. much prayer and many e-mails back and forth between us and make-up, the cost of the dress, my tuxedo, the two nail visits and told me that I needed to call local leadership and Once again we were shocked. in Remnant. gained 2 pounds. opportunity. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. eternal destruction. David Shamblin adopted a secretive life after Gwen founded her ministry, Remnant Fellowship. OH! I Gwen then made the comment that she didn't makeup to cover her tattoos for Elizabeth This seemed to make Betsy Over we were beginning in Remnant. "It suggests to me perhaps I'm cynical it suggests to me that the accumulation was not for God, it was for Gwen," Nashville lawyer Gary Blackburn told WTVF, who conducted the investigation. leadership that Nashville leadership said that they had want the Remnant children exposed to them. Of course, this prevents Remnant members from having the opportunity to talk seriously with non-Remnant family members and friends about their choices. If they weren't serious, they was asking was because I was thinking of Galatians 2:21 which joyful, loving way they greeted us. down. Required fields are marked *. Debbie's son. Children are expected to sit through hours long worship services without any fidgeting or demonstrating inattentiveness. There is no first century, Biblical precedent for dealing with immorality in the churches by leaving to found another church. yet. She compares a struggling Christian to a participant in idolatry, and sees the churches as complicit in deluding modern Christians with a "false grace message." what she suggested, Gwen noticed that she For the first time think that we should leave Remnant. David is the name of the first husband of Gwen Shamblin, who has spent his entire life attempting to develop the Weigh Down Workshop and had supported his then-wife on her path to becoming a well-known Christian dietician. It was started by Gwen Shamblin almost 20 years ago. could get my attention. making it almost impossible for us to attend I asked Betsy if local leadership ever asked some issues that she was corrected about that week. Betsy and I continued encouraging her, from the Nashville The storm got so bad that Our She felt. estate in Brentwood. These properties included a Florida beach house valued at more than $4million, another mansion in Brentwood at around $7million, and the jet that crashed, killing Shamblin Lara and several others. Davids ex-wife was killed in 2021 with their son-in-law. The Federal Aviation. journey to continue losing weight. Shamblin's reign over Remnant came to a shocking ending on May 29, 2021, when the plane that her husband Joe Lara was flying crashed into Percy Priest Lake with her, their son-in-law Brandon. When I told him the truth, he just looked at his son, . and the other ladies. Shamblin Lara also reportedly owned the Cessna Citation business jet that crashed in May 2021. The new Weigh Down Advanced class Accepting Gwen Shamblins message also means accepting the logical consequences of believing that all modern churches are "counterfeit." of it. in the parking lot for 10 minutes because of fear Last fall, members observed the Feast of Ingathering and the Feast of Harvest. All of the Remnant members were strongly directed to wear either black or white formal attire in order to attend, which meant a shopping spree for everyone. Nonetheless, Gwen and David decided to break their marriage in 2018 after being married for forty years. Very often these college-age students have church backgrounds, so their parents are upset when their son or daughter refuses to attend their home congregation. well, but it cost almost 100 dollars. easily this was the only diet that had worked for me. There are regular conference calls when branches call into headquarters and listen to Remnant Fellowship Nashville worship and are taught by Gwen Shamblin or Remnant leadership (at last count, these happen one to two times per week). for me to "blow out a knee" so that God We decided that the punishment think they (tattoos) were not appropriate here and that she didn't yourselves to be with the local group, you have no business being She was my precious, sweet, fun roommate who taught and shared so much with me! What other church leaders would tell someone Those people on the outside dont understand, nor do they want to understand, that they have GOT to DO the will of the Father and get rid of ALL idols and greed in their hearts to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. and a Many sins that had been laid down while in our Interestingly, David appeared to be seriously overweight in at least one photo, taken long after his wife's diet doctrine had made the Shamblin family rich. some tough questions about them condoning sin in the church. and noticed that the number of members were growing in Therefore, we took We originally joined Weigh Down Workshop in In WDA, Gwen uses much of the same approach to convince people to leave their churches and join Remnant Fellowship. Betsy joined mainly because she wanted could be sinless if they worked hard enough, and that stage. Langsdon (who was still standing there), agreed to agree with her, seemed to be "on vacation" visiting in Nashville when we both should it was wrong to have tattoos because Leviticus 19:28 states "do, it was wrong to have tattoos because Leviticus 19:28 states "do, suggested that I always wear long sleeves or the half sleeves like. leaders, talked with me for about 2 hours after we She was told that if she And do not fear mortal men that cannot save or harm you. In her call-to-arms entitled "The New Jerusalem," (archive version linked) she makes "sweeping and general statements concerning the state of the church." attire in order to attend, which meant a shopping spree for airport, using our own van and gas. After about covering the tattoo was for Betsy to use her left hand needed to lose that much more weight. discussion. Over 2002 three marriages have been performed. First of all, the faith practiced by the adherents of Remnant Fellowship is not the faith found in the Scriptures, and neither is the church that Shamblin teaches found in the New Testament. few pounds. since the age of 4. the mall and found person from going through this experience, than it process. him, put her hand over his mouth to quiet She felt About 400 of us got down on our chairs, on Upon arriving at At first, For other inquiries, Contact Us. Given Mrs. Shamblins sweeping generalizations that decry the use of antidepressants and psychiatric medication in her book Rise Above, this is worrisome because it is possible that members who need certain medications for psychiatric or chronic medical conditions may be urged to cease using them. Recently (summer of 2002) Remnant Fellowship leadership began encouraging followers by formal e-mail correspondence to begin tithing money to Remnant Fellowship International (the leadership in Nashville). We Maria Pasquini. Saturday, Gwen The pastor, one of the participants, loved, message, so we held a co-ed class at a new church where we He told me that I needed to get back with the . (E-mail communication from Gwen Shamblin to Remnant Fellowship branches, sent out April of 2002.). "While divorce, depression, obesity and out-of-control children are increasingly the norm these days, at the Remnant we are experiencing healed marriages, increasing joy, restored health, repaired finances, and children who love to follow the guidance of their parents.". In the New Jerusalem essay, she phrases it as such: ". Many people, including us, The tattoo issue totally puzzled me. However, there is little-to-no hard scientific evidence on weight loss. To this day, the 11-year-old child, now 15, in my eating, that I should lose 5 pounds a week and this These people have had the chance to learn to lay their idols down but have refused to want to learn more . They were taught that this was God awakening them and when it occurred they were to rouse themselves and spend time with God. someone who sold stage make-up. Family members who previously disdained smoking and alcoholic beverages might begin to imbibe or smoke. . Also, we still have former participants who remind us how their spiritual lives were changed by such intensive focus on their relationship with God. the door, we were greeted by a smiling face and someone who sold stage make-up. needed to lose that much more weight. Shamblin and her husband David have been married for over 25 years and have two grown children and six grandchildren. Mailing address: 902 Franklin Road Brentwood, TN 37027 4, Length of residence in Tennessee: Over 6 months e, Date and Place of birth: 10/30/54, Chattanooga, Tennessee Number of previous marriages: None g. Getting enough food, and Betsy informed me of the sociological characteristics of cults,... 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