1 Joe Maya Well-Known Member. It taught him that being reckless, even if it is for a good reason, is a dangerous thing. “I said,” Buggy repeats just as they reach another hallway of cells, his eyes landing on a redheaded man in the first one, locking gazes with him for a fraction of a second before fixing his sight on the massive tatoo on Firefist’s back instead. If Shanks didn't lose his arm back then, would have Luffy been psychologically affected by the accident ? While Luffy wasn't directly responsible for Shanks' lost arm (it's not like he personally bit it off), this is a moment that must still hang heavy on his conscience to this day. This sub is mostly an echo chamber, so if you say something outside the pinned theory thread that speaks critically of One Piece, generally, people don’t like that. Hi Guys!, I was always stuck and wondering why did Shanks lose his arm by a mere monster? Because in episode 461 when Ace meets Shanks in the cave they show his left arm its a flashback but its after he saves Luffy. You have entered an incorrect email address! From a story point of view, Shanks losing his arm for Luffy is part of the reason why Luffy turned around and took himself and adventuring so seriously. I am pretty sure that he did it on purpose : losing an arm in order to make Luffy evolve and to reinforce his link with him. If you want discussion, please sort the subreddit by New. The problem is people think of it as a "plot hole" because their so obsessed with power tiers. Everyone’s favourite Red Haired Pirate lost an arm because the story wasn’t interesting enough at that point. An example can be taken of when he pissed off Big Mom for no big reason in Fishman Island. Not only for him, but also for the people he's trying to protect (which he wanted to do by confronting Higuma). It was the conclusion of the lesson Shanks was already teaching; which was that he could be spat on, insulted, and even attacked, but good reason or not, no one hurt his friends. He "bet" it on Luffy, for him to take the pirate route and continue the will of D he sensed in him . I don’t think people should interpret that much into the early chapters because it wasn’t even decided yet how long the series will even run or when it will come to a conclusion. If he does he will just be attracting attention, to his un-born child. It speaks more about the “why” he did it instead of “what” the action was. Arlong has stronger teeth than Lord of the Coast, but Luffy didn't lose an arm. 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But it is certainly VERY precious to Shanks. Not really a fan of this explanation, I think to say he did it on purpose is just too much. Later, when Shanks was talking with Whitebeard, he explained that it was a bet. AU $12.13. I feel like we're in the minority on this, but I do think Shanks lost his arm to teach Luffy something. Luffy likely will avoid seeking out Shanks until he feels he can actually challenge Shanks for the worth of learning how to get to Raftal. you see, at mf arc, when shanks came, mihawk didnt want to involved anymore as if he respected shanks and know what can he do because he already know how shanks fighting style is, even with one arm, he still strong, he is yonkou after all. And finally, Oda wanted to put this in the manga, but he put it into the canon Loguetown Novel: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/7dwrft/did_oda_always_planned_haki_or_was_it_added_only/dq0xeal/. We provide you with the latest breaking news and videos straight from the anime & manga industry.You can also enjoy articles & reviews on manga, cosplay, anime games,otaku lifestyle and more! See: a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/52-506.0/compressed/i017.jpg – Chen Orihara Oct 5 '15 at 13:32 Jan 18, 2020 #6 Because Gol D Roger sickness is … Despite all that, Shanks has already played a very important role in Luffy’s journey towards becoming the Pirate King. So, Shanks’ arm was used as a way to get fans hooked on One Piece. And it's unimaginable even then to think of Mihawk losing an arm to a Sea King. But logically speaking, there are clues that already showed he couldn't have lost his arm like that, unless he gave it up. All of which is to say: shit happens. Let me explain. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Today’s post is titled Red Hair Shanks One Piece.He is the guy we all probably love and respect. You sit on your knees next to him, he wraps an arm around your waist and pulls you closer. Shanks is a relatively tall man (just under two meters), well-built, tan-complexioned, and in the prime of his mid-adulthood. And he already knew he wanted to have Yonko from the start. I get what you mean, we’ll probably never be sure about all of this though. Have people on this sub never heard of figurative language or something. but, i would likely to say shanks is stronger than mihawk. All content cited is derived from their respective sources. It taught him that being reckless, even if it is for a good reason, is a dangerous thing. Merely 10-20 chapters later is underwater combat with Fishmen, and humans can still fight and win underwater. Oda's been thinking about the Yonko (and therefore an end-game Shanks) before the story even began. If Shanks wastes Luffy to not be reckless, then he failed miserably. Jan 18, 2020 #5 He knows he will have to give his hat and arm for an idiot messiah, get surpassed by his sword rival and then get violated by Teach . They feel ashamed for this act and some of Shanks family members split off and started to live among humans. In the Viz Manga, 4Kids and Funimation dubs, it is called the Gum-Gum Fruit, \"gum\" being a soft, cohesive substance designed for chewing, with elastic properties. If Mihawk is such a tough obstacle for Zoro, then Shanks is likely one for Luffy. Shanks' willingness to keep his sword down during just a relatively harmless moment wasn't humiliating but humbling, a true testament to Shanks' perception and sense of values. If you've just set sail with the Straw Hat Pirates, be wary of spoilers on this subreddit! Strength 2 Pints: Shanks : Akainu: 1 P: 1 P: Shanks Vs Akainu. The average age of a Shanks family member is 70.2 years old according to our database of 5,094 people with the last name Shanks that have a birth and death date listed. In Episode 1 when Luffy BTFO'd the Sea King that nommed on Shanks arm. And how he got there for in that instant to save Luffy? Of course, it's when what he values is truly targeted does one get the latter half of this quote. From the East Blue to the New World, anything related to the world of One Piece belongs here! Initially, Oda had no intention that Shanks lost his arm, but after an editor told him that the story was not interesting enough, Oda decided to cut his arm off. Oda couldn’t think of anything better than Shanks making a sacrifice, which is often the case in the world of Anime. That would be a horrible thing to do. Initially, Oda had no intention that Shanks lost his arm, but after an editor told him that the story was not interesting enough, Oda decided to cut his arm off. Anime and Manga - Other Titles This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. I think the idea that Shanks didn’t get any weaker without his arm comes from people misinterpreting an Oda quote. No, with this being Luffy's dream, surpassing Shanks is an end-game goal. It was a wake-up call to the harsh reality of the sea, and it also gave him a prime motivation - that if Luffy didn't at least try, then his hero would have suffered for no … We know by fact (source : Vivre Cards) that Shanks was a yonko already when he lost his arm to the sea king. He would sacrifice his arm and quietly console Luffy, because he cared about Luffy that much. There is still a lot of mystery around that scar,but we know some things about it and can make some conclusion based around it. Yes? Why does everyone say Shanks has the best CoA (like an armor)? wait i thought i read somewhere that the shichibukai were the original "endgame bosses" before the idea of the yonko was even conceived bc oda didn't know how long one piece was gnna last; wouldn't be able to provide a source for that tho. If you believe we have used your copyrighted content without permission, send us an email at [email protected] and we will remove it immediately. \"Gomu\" means \"rubber\" in Japanese. He says. Cookies help us deliver our Services. And we still don't know the exact meaning of that straw hat. He also saved Luffy’s life at East Blue, and in that process, he ended up losing an arm. Would you really want your hero to carve out your future by tricking you into thinking you cost him his arm? (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Sotaku is your anime news & entertainment website. why Shanks why JUST after Roger came back from laugh tail why he cried the foreshadow is clear ... there should be a legit reason . Dec 19, 2020 #22. Not everything is planned out from day 1. Joined Apr 14, 2016 Messages 1,905 Kin 0 Kumi 0 Trait Points 0⚔️ Dec 4, 2016 #1 Was shanks supposed to be the king of pirates? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Regular. Fact is making an important character lose an arm to save someone is a strong emotional statement and keeps the reader involved in the story. Thread starter AllKnowingShinobi; Start date Dec 4, 2016; AllKnowingShinobi Active member. He said something along the lines of “Shanks is still incredibly powerful without his arm”, and took that to mean he’s at full strength. Sanji | Leo, Royalties Oda rarely ever introduces things and never follows up on them. We can make out that he was strong from the start of the Series itself. Combined with the foreshadowing he wanted to do of Luffy's own CoC in Loguetown's canon Novel, it's not too much of a stretch to say he used Conqueror's Haki in the first chapter. First off how can people not see that as being incredibly manipulative? Shanks risks his arm to a sea king. 1. Shanks' quote here helped stir Luffy from such a reputation. This played on Oda’s mind, and thus he decided to make some changes. Shanks wrapped his arms around her, "I will get a bigger crew I promise this and then I will come back. It was the last film directed by producer-director William Castle. Which adds to Shank's status, and almost certainly means he's a strong individual. He also wanted to have Nami as the first crewmate, so he likely had her backstory with Arlong planned. Which he did. Reborn ~~Inglorious Bastards~~. Shanks is not cruel like many other pirate captains, nor does he rule over his crew with fear to gain respect. The Reason Why Shanks Lost An Arm. Top 50 Best Movies of The Decade To Watch On Netflix... Top 30 Dark Anime Series List [Best Recommendations], Top 16 Best Anime About Mafia, Yakuza & Gangsters, The Top 20 Must-See Japanese Animation Movies of All Time. People usually talk about it as a plot hole. I think it actively reduces the impact of his "It's just an arm" speech. Am I the only one who think that it is definitely not ? Even Shanks is not in his ship he showed some of his power on the crew of the strongest man in the world and this gives us a proof on his power. I pretty much say the same thing about Naruto when someone starts complaining that Hiruzen and Jiraiya didn't take care of Naruto as a kid or tell him his dad was the fourth Hokage. Oda wanted to introduce Fishmen at Chapter 3, which means the concept of humans being strong enough to fight them underwater was likely there (like Sanji and Kuroobi). I think Shanks was already thinking of giving the Straw Hat to Luffy before Higuma attacked. Shank's defining trait is his Conqueror's Haki. When Mihawk visits Shanks to show him Luffy's first bounty, Shanks asks him if he's here to duel and Mihawk says he doesn't want to fight someone who has lost his arm. "Come on Love. They're human beings writing series that span decades. Shiba D. Inu SOLDIER 1st Class. Shanks crew is very much powerful in their terms but the Red Hair Pirates number might be very less than other Yonko Crews. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I am so sorry; that I will not be able to help you raise the child." Everyone’s favourite Red Haired Pirate lost an arm because the story wasn’t interesting enough at that point. It's not a plot hole unless you think power tiers are a fundamental part of the plot. These authors aren't 300 IQ chessmasters. I dont understand..? Why Shanks gave up his arm.-0-0-0- The Red Hair pirates were finally sailing away from their final stop at Foosha Village, leaving behind events that would have repercussions that would shake the world in the years to come. He almost drowned and then was almost eaten due to picking a fight he didn't need to; how could it not? Too bad he's still reckless as fuck, even post-ts and even post-zoro telling him not to be reckless during punk hazard. The last One, Decision stage. So even if it was a plot hole, in the end it doesn’t matter, because Luffy still learned an important lesson about being a pirate. If Shanks didn't lose his arm back then, would have Luffy been psychologically affected by the accident ? I disagree that Oda didn't have Haki in mind in the beginning. All images are copyrighted to their respective owners. This is the best comment I've seen on this. He taught Luffy to fiercely value those bonds, to risk life and limb for them. People like Nekomamushi and Queen aren't on a different level if you give their arm back. But I don't think Shanks would deliberately lose a arm just to teach Luffy a lesson. To top all that, he even stopped the war of the best by just making his appearance there(!! I agree but Luffy beeing Luffy he probably forgot about thinking twice about his actions about 5 seconds after Shanks lost the arm. Shanks saw the old captain in Luffy when Luffy said word for word what his old captain used to say about not backing down from a fight and how shameful it is. Maybe he had such faith in Luffy he didn't care if he lost his arm, and when rushing to save him he cared more about keeping Luffy safe than himself. Unlike Kaido, who apparently has natural scales that won't let him be killed, Shanks seems to just be a regular human like Garp and Mihawk. He was the one who inspired Luffy to become a Pirate. That sacrifice was made to hopefully bring order (luffy). All rights reserved. cuz shanks tells white beard at one point that he had put bet/faith or watever in the east blue for the new era, when talking bout his lost arm. Shanks sacrificed his arm for the New Generation of Pirates. The Yonkou are strong but they aren't gods (which is kind of the point of these last few arcs: revealing both their immense strengths but also their fundamental weaknesses). Now his Haki is on a different level, he improved it in 6 years after, to not to make the same mistake again. What's with the downvotes in this thread? It's a nice explaination, I;d just like to add that during the Sabaody Archipelago Arc when Luffy spoke with Silver Rayleigh he spoke of Shanks loosing his hat (and arm). Of course it would. The real answer is because Oda doesn't give a fuck about fanmade power tiers, and nature has no power levels. "How can someone Yonkou level lose an arm to a fish?!" I think you’d be hard pressed to ever find Oda saying he didn’t lose anything. That’s probably all the thought that has gone into that scene at the time and it worked out good in retrospect. You're spot on, he placed a bet on the new age. You walk over to where he climbed and take his hand, setting a foot on a box, getting ready to climb out, but he just pulls and lifts you. It might be a (big) part of the reason why Shanks passed his hat on to Luffy. how did Shanks lose his arm to that fodder Sea King? Press J to jump to the feed. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. We have possible clues about Shanks lineage in the same talk between … If he had it, then I dont think a normal Sea King could even bruise him, let alone rip off his arm. That’s not all. Shanks is a 1974 American horror film about a puppeteer able to manipulate dead bodies like puppets . Think this shows he was once EVEN stronger, or had the potential to be even better, but chose to give that up for some kid. We get to see the power of the World's Strongest Swordsman in Chapter 51. He risked life and limb to save someone that had no guarantee of living up to his potential; that's what the bet is. It showed what kind of person Shanks was to the viewer. Additionally, he was super interested in Shanks hat, not just interested, but kind of obsessed. OP might celebrate insane strength and durability, but it's still a series where we have the quote "Human beings are fragile". That’s right! Mime Marcel Marceau, in his first major film role, plays the titular Malcolm Shanks. He would love to use the place as a base till the child is born but knew. Joyboy gave his arm to save Shank’s ancestor and later on Shank’s family was partially responsible for the fall of Joyboy and his homeland. I promise you that I will come back to see you and our child. If luffy didn't piss off big mom, she would have destroyed fishman island for not getting her sweets. However, one thing that he struggled to replicate was Shanks' humility, as he didn't understand why Shanks would let some mountain … Plot. All this means Shanks is too strong, as a character meant to be in the endgame from the beginning. What if one of those tales was about how Shank’s ancestor got saved by a certain “D.”? I think losing an arm was also a way for Shanks to affect Luffy's vision of life and the world : you can't go out to the sea and live an adventure on your own if you can't even survive a sea monster attack. Worthy of note is that… What the editor was actually trying to establish was that while the start to One Piece was decent, there needed to be an impact. When Oda drew him at first, his editor didn’t think Shanks was interesting enough. Not only for him, but also for the people he's trying to protect (which he wanted to do by confronting Higuma). so im guessing he is indirectly saying he put faith on luffy even with the cost of losing his arm. It also makes no sense imo, because: If Shanks didn't lose his arm back then, would have Luffy been psychologically affected by the accident ? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It’s only logical, he is a cheerful guy with the most badass crew and he even saved our beloved Luffy from the seakings, sacrificing his own arm in the process. Shanks is one of the most laid back characters in the world of One Piece, preferring to take his time as he and his crew travels around the world rather than rushing from one place to another. 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